Category: Healing

  • 10 Red Flags to Identify Emotionally Unhealthy Christians

    Trigger Warning: Emotional Abuse, Spiritual Abuse, CPTSD, Narcissm, Child abuse. This piece contains material that may cause a reaction. 

    Following Tanya Marlows quite brilliant piece on the statements that Christians have used in the wake of the RZMI revelations, in it she identifies a number of phrases that then get banded around, often excusing, minimising or disconnecting a persons character from their ministry, mostly after the revelations have been made public. That piece is here 

    But his books are still good, right? – 5 things Christians must stop saying about sexual abusers

    I want to add a few more, to that list

    Though, her list includes: 

    1. His books are still good
    2. ‘we are all human’ everyone makes mistakes
    3. Blaming pedestals. 
    4. God can use anyone – this is a great example..
    5. The Biblical excuse – equating Kind David as a mirroring example.   (Tanya Marlow)

    Do read in full. 

    I want to build on this, by suggesting that there will have been a few things said BEFORE the case was made public, that signify that there were signs that there was emotionally immature practices from along time ago.

    Before you think that these do not happen in the UK (and RZMI has been in the UK) , and RZMI is a one-off, then I’m afraid you are mistaken. Emotional immaturity covers a range of personality issues, such as narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy

    1. The Loyalty Card. 

    This gets played when someone disagrees with them. Rather than converse or dialogue with the person in a healthy conversation, they often dismiss this, using phrases like “I dont agree with them, and we as an organisation shouldn’t entertain it’ or ‘ You’ll bring shame to the family if you carry on saying things like that’ or ‘we cant have those kind of opinions in our church’  – loyalty is the card, played because they dont want to argue, but more that they seek adherence and conformity. Emotionally immature people throw this. They are often only interested in their opinion, not listening to someone elses.  This one is very very common.  Loyalty is regarded very very high in emotionally immature people. Closely linked to this is the shame that they throw towards you, and you then get to feel guilt for saying such a thing. Loyalty is often accused by those who actually show no evidence of being it themselves. It’s projecting, or gaslighting too. 

    2. Invalidate Feelings.  

    ‘They’re just emotional, They’re just sensitive’ This gets played to dismiss that someone might even have emotions when they have been wronged, and make a complaint. Somehow its as if emotionless responses are the higher ideal. Maybe, its that culturally in churches we place a very low regard for any emotions. So, when people display them, they are often dismissed, devalued and ignored. Can also include ‘ they’re always angry’. The emotionally unhealthy can look people in the eye and still lie. Emotionless is somehow then believed and that culture then created by them. 

    3. The Jezebel.

    You know its about to happen. The attack. The use of the J word. Its on its way. ‘They’re just a Jezebel’  Once the emotions have been highlighted, now the complainant is given the highest calling of all, the name above all, the most magnificent insult known to nearly all women who dare to a)disobey, b)show disloyalty, or c) expose an abuser and the ministry they hold. 

    They are the Jezebel.

    The sounding attack of the emotionally immature christian leader. (or twitter troll- same thing)  

    Notice that men dont get the insults as easy. But Women await the Jezebel insult. Wear it with pride. It’s coming. ‘Jezebel’ is on its way. 

    4. The forgiveness card 

    Following a concerted, even pastoral attempt to soothe the situation, often by saying things like ‘ you’re just bitter, angry’ then forgiveness is requested by representatives of the abuser, said like ‘you just need to forgive them, dont hold it in your heart’ ‘God wouldn’t want you to see them in that way’  ‘let go and let God’ 

    Forgiveness, as I have learned, is not something the abuser has the right to suggest, neither is it for the institution who houses them to offer it. Especially when those whose voices have expressed concern have not been taken seriously. 

    5.  The ‘Giving away the bare minimum’ card. 

    That wasn’t a big deal, everyone does that. I didnt do anything. I didnt do that. 

    But they did do this. 

    One thing that you can be certain of is that an emotionally immature person admits to merely the tip of the iceberg.

    So, they belittle the one thing, giving it away – oh I did just do that, but it was nothing 

    like ‘I dont abuse people, but I maybe have said the odd thing’ – its as if they are happy to give away something and admit one thing, the tip of the iceberg. 

    It is often just that. The tip of an iceberg they hope you never see. 

    What ever they admit to, what they actually did do was 5000 times worse. 

    6. Spiritual Bypassing or weaponising. 

    This could be similar to the forgiveness card ‘ everyone else needs to…’ – But its when they say things like ‘lets just pray about this’ or ‘Im sure God will help us at this time’ or ‘we just need to pray more’  or ‘We just need to make Jesus central to this’ – Especially in cases of emotional abuse, this is said when the person wants to avoid actually dealing with something to do with themselves, and holding up a spiritual bypass card to avoid wrestling with or having their real emotional trauma or state revealed. 

    And weaponising scripture. Ill not add it here. But throw a few bible verses out context to make people doubt their opinions and feelings, and you’re there.  

    7. The Role card 

    Usually in the form of ‘As a christian ‘I cant do that ‘thing’  or ‘Im a minister, theres no way I would do that’ or ‘Ive been doing this ministry for 20 years I wouldn’t do that’ or ‘As the child of a ________, that really isn’t me’ 

    Often they’ll play on an identity or role to make it look as they couldn’t do something. In a way what this does is separate them into roles and identities. When accused, or when challenged, they slip into an identity within which they cannot see themselves as anything other than a Godly, Holy person. However, what they disassociate from is the behaviour and their own personhood that has committed it. 

    They also see you in a role. Often one of the 3 in the Drama triangle.Image result for the drama triangle

    8. The ‘self loathing and victim mindset’ card.  

    No one else truly understands me, im just a worthless worm, im like Elijah under the tree, Im just one of those people Satan attacks, im tormented, theres days when I wish the whale would swallow me. 

    This is closely followed by using these examples to exegete that their life has been one long drama, and that everyone needs to feel sorry for them.  Its a rubber guts humility. (They play victim in the triangle, using Biblical references as a guide) 

    They are actually bragging about the things that they are asking you to feel sorry for them. They brag about they are repenting for and proud of it. 

    9. The ‘just trying my best’ card

    Im just trying. Everything I do seems to fail. Im just trying to be a good vicar/person/husband/leader/pastor. Again said to request that someone else needs to see them as the helpless trier who keeps trying, and wants a second chance. 

    also seen as ‘I have a good heart…ive just made a lot of mistakes in my past’ 

    or can look like. 

    ‘Im a good guy, trying my best, why are you the only person I cant get along with’

    Problem is that they have had millions of second chances, and if you have offered second chances, chances are others have too. Chances are, they are unlikely to be good, honest, decent – though they keep saying they are trying to be.  ‘You’ll just have to trust me, ive changed, this time its different’  – do question how this is the case, and them reading the bible or praying more, doesn’t count. Therapy, though, might. 

    I wish it wasn’t the case, but, unless the emotionally immature see themselves and do something about it, they will nearly always be unable to do the good they see others do. At times their only reaction is to be jealous of it.  Until that point, they are only saying they are trying their best, and its just words.  

    10. Not taking any responsibility.  

    Never, not once. Its everyone else fault. Satans. Gods. The congregation. The previous church,  ‘Its the world is full of darkness’ …The previous partner, and add more… 

    They use your compassion on them, to give them a second chance, it’s how they can hide. 

    If you start to hear any of these, the red flags need to be raised.  Get vigilant, aware and begin talking to each other, They will play you all off. Their only hope to survive is to divide and rule. 

     Darvo is one of the key patterns to look out for, because the emotionally immature will seek to confuse their victims, complainants and the system itself by switching roles.  The victim triangle is one to look out for too, as the emotionally immature will nearly always only operate in one of these three roles, Victim, Rescuer (often Codependant) or Perpetrator. 

    Thank you Tanya, for your piece yesterday, Thank you to all the women and men who have had to raise their voices and concerns in cases and not been believed. Emotionally immature, unhealthy churches and organisations are all around, they are full of emotionally unhealthy people. Often the emotionally healthy are the ones whose voices get belittled or sidelined. Strange that, when they often know what’s going on. 

    Please do leave a comment, like this piece and also if you have other examples to add, please share. Thank you 

    Many of the resources from which I gathered these from are in the menu link above. 

  • I grew up with a psychopath in the home (and a christian one)

    I grew up with a psychopath

    One of my parents is a psychopath.

    I don’t say this lightly.

    My mother is a psychopath.

    There, I said it.

    I grew up with a psychopath

    A christian one.

    Just saying this out loud is pretty phenomenal, or is it?

    I mean didn’t you all do the facebook quiz ‘Discover if your mum is a psychopath and get a high score…? no, I thought not…

    Its a bit different from that Johnny Briggs TV show of my own childhood, ‘My mum, who’s a nurse… ‘

    When I started blogging nearly 10 years ago, I did not think that this would be the blog I would write.

    Probably because at that time I lived in blissful ignorance, actually, numbed trauma reaction, to the extent of my parents emotional coercion and abuse.

    Was it ever possible to see?  Yes, and everyone knew more than they realised. But it wasn’t possible for me to see it.

    So, it was no surprise to me this year when I realised that my mum is a psychopath. Actually it meant that all the pieces fit together.

    It was one thing to realise that I was subject to emotional abuse as a child. 

    It was another thing to categorise my parent as a narcissist 

     Another again to regard them both as emotionally immature. 

    It was a step further still to regard her as a psychopath. But honestly, its the only accurate conclusion. 

    It wasn’t a shock in anyway when it was pointed out to me by two separate people in the last year, one of whom knows her pretty well.

    I realised something else this year too.

    You know that thing where some kids defend their parents and are loyal to them, even when they raise the alarm about abuse, or when others attract their parents. Theres a natural defence and loyalty from children to parents at times, despite everything.

    This is not something I have ever consciously felt. It was only this year when I realised that I hadn’t ever stood up for them. So, something must have happened when I was a young child, and thanks to trauma therapy I’ve worked, and working through this.

    I have always known that my parents, mum especially, was weird. But an 11 year old isn’t going to come to this clinical realisation. A 31 year old didn’t either.

    And in the main, a number of you reading this, if this makes it to my home town, or places where they have lived, also know.

    You felt it, but couldn’t put your finger on it. You were bullied, then played as a victim. You were taken from, and never given to. Gifts were never without reason. Social moments where often of shock, and orientated around her. They played people off each other , all the time. Unable to see or understand why they aren’t liked.

    In his book ‘Surrounded by psychopaths’ Eriksen suggest that there are 20 behaviour traits that a psychopath is likely to display much of the time. (I know there is A PPI test too.)  She scores very high.

    These behavioural things include:

    Grandiosity, Jealousy, Shallow feelings/emotions, Egocentricity, Superficial charm, Role playing, pathological lying, cunning and manipulative, entitled, need for stimulation, early behaviour problems, parasitic lifestyle, lack of realistic long term goals, failure to accept any responsibility, juvenile delinquency, Callous.

    But it wasn’t a shock. It was more a dawning reality that helped me explain who I am. Helped me explain my life choices, and the divisions within my family, that kept everyone apart.

    So, im 42, 43 soon, and have lived 41 of those years trying to appease, exist and revolve my life a psychopath parent.  A parent, or parents in which none of these are true . Parents who exist only in the drama triangle, and perpetuate DARVO .

    Image result for drama triangle

     

    When I have shared this with a few people, they have said that they were sorry. Sorry for me, that this is what I have had to realise or face in my upbringing.

    As Lindsey Gibson writes too, Emotionally immature people (a term that encompasses psychopath, narcissist, sociopath) also disassociate. Dissociative personality disorder is evident in my parents. This has enabled one of them to commit shocking behaviours in their entire life, and not feel any remorse or guilt, or shame, and certainly not take any responsibility, amongst other things. But switching personalities, roles and identities was common.

    So, in piecing all the behaviour together, the trauma, the terror, the victim role playing, the dissociation. I had only one unenviable conclusion.

    My mother is a psychopath. She’s also Evangelical.

    My mother; The Christian Psychopath.

    I grew up with a psychopath in the home.

    Now I know it, its time to live with the awareness, heal from emotional trauma and be the person i am meant to be.

    (PS. Im aware that there will not ever be a diagnosis. Thats just the point, they wouldn’t actually go themselves, voluntarily, and even in any court case it would be difficult to prove. No one walks into their GP and says ‘ can I have a psychopath test please?’ and thats just the point. Admitting this would even mean acknowledging a self awareness, that is absent. )

    The resources that helped me identify all this are here 

  • The myths about parents that prevent truth of emotional abuse from being believed

    One of the main reasons victims of abuse dont get believed is that the actions that perpetrators do is so shocking that no one could believe it actually happened.

    Ironically the same people who describe such things have to articulate something so awful and shocking, that it would be beyond their own mental capacity to make something up. They have no need to lie when the actions that occurred are scandalous enough.

    Another is the default positions that people hold about parents, especially in situations of parent -child abuse and emotional abuse.

    If you’ve been on the receiving end of emotional abuse in childhood, you’ll know how you feel when people say these things, the myths of what parents are supposed to be:

    • All Parents love their children
    • A Parent is the one person you can trust
    • A parent will always be there for you
    • You can tell your parents anything
    • Your parents will love you no matter what
    • You can always go back home
    • Your parents only want what’s best for you
    • Your parents know more than you do
    • Whatever your parents do, they’re doing it for your own good

    Some parents, mine included, even use these statements to describe something that they have absolutely no intention of actually acting out. Many of these myths are not true when you have emotionally immature parents, as Lindsay C Gibson (2016, p142) they never even see the light of day, they’re distant hoped for lands, where other children live in families, but not you.

    Some parents also have the word ‘Christian’ or ‘Faith’ to that list. As a christian, they wouldn’t do that..would they??  

    Yet, society trots these things out, as if good parenting is the default zeitgeist.

    It’s strange that when many tales of children, and fiction represent children abandoned, abused and tormented in their upbringing. Or where adults are pretty useless, like Harry Potter, Cinderella, and the many others.

    But when some of these statements above are held widely in society, then it can often become the first instinct not to believe the person who shares of the abuse from their parents.

    It’s not just as if their parent couldn’t do that, its that ‘no’ parent could.

    But they can. And they do.

    For many of us, those statements are just not true. In emotionally immature parents, these are those who are fit these criteria:

    EIP.jpg

    Then more than one can exist in a family. I have 2, and 1 is very strong at that.

    So, we must as a society, as youthworkers, social workers, counsellors, clergy and therapists, do our best, and do better, than believe the myth of parenting, rather than the actual experience and victim of parental abuse is trying to communicate. Because in many many cases, articulating emotional abuse is phenomenally difficult to do.

    One of the issues that Gibson writes about too is that as children, or adult children of emotionally immature parents, we may be unable to see our parents clearly, given that accepting that our parents are actually none of the above list (and more like the 4 types) that we care to imagine.

    Though, for others, like myself, I’ve know my parents have been weird, odd, since a very young age, and that may bring about different effects, and barely entertaining that they would be any of these things at all, because they barely acted in a way that it was true.

    My healing journey, and possibly yours too, is about beginning to see the past in a realistic and actual way, and not in a mythical hopeful sense, like the child who may hope for better or change. If you’re in your mid 40’s and hope your parents change now, then youre on a hiding to nothing. The only person who can change is yourself, especially as you heal and grow.  Its not only time to educate ourselves about the truth of our parents, but also others so that they see too.

    Parents are supposed to be these things, and in some cases, hopefully the majority, they are. If you have a good relationship with your parents, please dont assume that others do, or the myth of parents, because thats what they are, myths. Myths that stop truth from being believed.

    References

    Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, Lindsay C Gibson, 2o16

    Recovering from Emotionally Immature Parents, Lindsay C Gibson, 2019

     

     

     

  • Everyone knew…but everyone was terrified

    ‘All the same’, demurred Fudge, ‘they are here to protect you all from something much worse.. we all know what (Sirius) Black is capable of..’ ,

    ‘Do you know, I still have trouble believing it, said Madam Rosmerta thoughtfully ‘Of all the people to go over to the dark side, Sirius Black was the last id have thought…I mean, I remember him as boy at Hogwarts. If you’d told me then what he was going to become, I’d say you’d had too much mead’

    ‘You dont know the half of it , Rosmerta’, said Fudge gruffly ‘The worst isnt widely known’

    (From JK Rowlings Harry Potter, The Prisoner of Azkhaban)

    In this scene, Harry is listening under the table, to a conversation about the background of the escapee prisoner Sirius, and how Sirius had close links to the Potter Family. It is this exchange that strikes me. You have the revelation of the action of Sirius, and the disbelief of one of them in conversation, that even so many years later that the accused, Sirius could be like they are.

    Yet as the narrative unfolds the grisly truth of Sirius behaviour is revealed.

    He is stone cold, shameless when confronted by his own behaviours of betrayal – seeming perfectly normal in the heat of a crime , and betrays Harrys Parents to let Voldemort access to their home to kill them.

    Some people just dont know, they hide all their behaviour behind closed doors.

    Some still are like Rosmerta, in disbelief that anything like this could be the behaviour of the boy Sirius.

    But its as difficult, when people do actually know.

    Some people have been entitled, shameless, narcissistic bullies all their life.

    They are well known to be weird. Well known to be easily angered, jealous, spiteful, over emotional, ego centric, and turn on the victim tears at the sight of challenge or being called out.

    People knew about Sirius, though some didnt.

    What could anyone do?

    Ive wondered this a few times this year.

    Two people have told me that they are apologetic that they knew, but didnt protect me.

    What could they do?

    Everyone knew.

    But did nothing

    Because.

    They could do nothing.

    Everyone knew

    But were scared themselves.

    I know they couldn’t.

    Everyone knew

    But they were terrified

    Everyone knew

    But they were traumatised themselves

    They knew she was easily angered

    They had felt it…

    They hadn’t been seen themselves, just prey for her ego

    And had to work hard, work together to piece the story

    They now avoid, put up boundaries.

    They had been used as a complaining sponge, to hear who she was wanting to complain about this time, me, my sister, their friends, the church, her job.

    Dumbfounded in disbelief.

    ‘Theres nothing wrong with James… its his _________ thats the problem’. (Once said a Vicar who knew me aged 19)

    Some people can hide their abuse behind closed doors. Other people wear it on their sleeve. All the time.

    On their sleeve. In full view.  Revealed all the time. Like Jimmy Saville for example. And the soon to be impeached one.

    You cant say ‘why didnt you leave’ when you’re a child. There is no escape. And that shouldn’t be said to anyone in a domestic abuse relationship anyway.

    Didn’t anyone else see?

    But everyone knew.

    Everyone still does know.

    Some people have been like it from their beginning.

    And it’s tolerated. Accepted. Protected even.

    ‘They’ve always been like that…. ‘

    ‘They cant be expected to change…’

    They play victim to get sympathy, whilst squeezing every other emotion out of the room.

    Agreed.

    Some people are not cunning enough to hide themselves.

    Some people dont get the chance to have a Rosmerta defend them.

    The worst isnt widely known

    because it would make you shiver.

    Thats the point, rules dont apply to them.

    Scared

    No one could do anything

    because everyone is terrified.

    Its a trauma response that sends chills down the spine.

    and

    no one fully knows the other half of it.

    Some of the abusers are hidden in plain sight. Some have displayed it all the time.

    Just that they have had their accusers silenced and delegitimised.

    If you saw or knew, but didnt do anything, no one blames you, I don’t.

    Why did no one do anything?  Well….. who could? Who would want to?

    Everyone knows, even now.

     

    (and I know Sirius isnt necessarily the person they claimed to him be, thats not the point I was making)

  • DARVO; the pattern to get smart on

    One of the benefits of being a survivor of emotional domestic abuse is that you can see the patterns of behaviour

    One of the disadvantage of being a survivor of emotional domestic abuse is that you can see the patterns of behaviour, everywhere, and at times, like I was when watching Stranger things recently, I get triggered by them.

    Growing up I was perceptive. Smart was a word people used also. I had to be, it was a survival mechanism to stay afloat with the narcissist in the house.

    What I couldn’t do as a child was articulate emotional abuse. How could I? – who can – its difficult enough when the bruise is visible.

    What I have become aware of as I have recovered from, and then read further about emotional and psychological abuse is that it is possible to see patterns.

    My previous piece here -is about gaining knowledge to heal.
    In this post I describe how psychopathy is evident in churches, and how to raise awareness of this.

    As someone perceptive, observant, and probably under went hyper-vigilence, anxiety and fear as a child, with emotionally immature parents , add the perceptivity to the knowledge and then patterns start to appear.

    Not only do the perpetuators of emotionally abusive acts, act in similar ways, their response when they are confronted is also similar.

    Its a cycle, and one that I want to bring awareness of, for those who have to deal with safeguarding, and bringing people to account who display such personalities.

    The first step is Denial.

    Of course they aren’t going to accept what they did, often a denial is in the form of denial (and then a reason is given for why they actually did what they did do, even though they denied doing it) There could also be a distracting acceptance here, ‘Of course I didnt do this, I couldn’t do this.. but I may have done this…'(instead, or smaller crime) 

    By the way an emotionally immature person is famous for behaviours that are so wrong that no one would have thought to make up rules against it. Like preside over the insurrection, often stealing things, like democracy, but could be other items, or any crime.  (Lindsay Gibson, 2019)

    The second is Accuse

    This can often be at the same time as the next two stages, but, Accuse – can look like scapegoating someone else, blaming them. It can be the classic and well trodden accusation that ‘everyone is being sensitive’ or ‘we got very upset when we were accused of’ – or ‘we were hurt by all your anger’  or there is a personal attack on the whistleblower somewhere in there. ‘They are emotional/sensitive/jealous , trying to destroy my job/ministry’ 

    This leads to the third thing…

    Notice how in part 2, they switched from perpetrator to victim..then..

    Part 3 is Reverse Victim-Offender

    They literally swap. In front of your very eyes. Its the tears of the girl who cries wolf, when she beat up the younger sister whilst looking after the wolf. Its the person who claims to be the victim, after being accused of doing something that they cannot conceive was in any way offensive. But they will turn from bully to victim in the blink of an eye. 

    They often then seek support from those who only see this side of them. Them as perpetual victims. Some people only see themselves as this, therefore are almost delusional to the offence and coercive control that they are actually perpetuating. 

    If you want to discover more, it’s here… DARVO 

    What does DARVO stand for? - Quora

    Can you imagine what its like as a child, or adult for that matter, seeing this in front of you?  When you have seen with your own eyes that abusive people have acted inappropriately and then in the blink of an eye play victim. And play the kind of emotionally immature victim that seeks the child to console them, and be on their side. Imagine how a child might try and articulate all of this and what they might be expected to do.  Some parents appear as the victims of the times they bullied their own children. Yes. Ill say it again. Some parents assume the role of victim after they have bullied their own children. And then expect the other child to be on the parents side.

    So, before I digress too far.

    Patterns.

    After the abuse is when you see them. Though, not everyone believes you even when you can see them. Or if you’ve lived through it.  one of the things to look for when dealing with emotional abuse, gaslighting, narcissism, psychopathy, is that DARVO is often apparent.

    What to do about it, is to be aware of it, and discover ways of not letting the Darvo monsters play you off in their game. Thats when you become their flying monkeys and enmeshed by them. Start to feel sorry for someone emotionally immature/narcissistic and all of a sudden your life, and previous friends, and families are divided into ruins..and so is your church, or entire nation when previously (USA) or currently (UK) led by one.

    If you are in a position of responsibility in churches, and especially in safeguarding one, then DARVO is definitely something you need to read up on.

    Simple infographic about DARVO based on research by Dr. Jennifer J. Freyd. For a high-res PDF copy click here .

     

  • The dawning reality, that your life was a lie

    One of the things I have had to come to terms with is that my life as a child was a lie. It took a while and wasn’t the first thing I started to see in the last few years as ive healed and undergone self awareness and therapy.

    Thats the reality when I see what happened to me.

    Though, I was aware of the weirdness of my parents, but….

     

    It was a lie.

    What I was told was a lie.

    What I was told about other members of my family, was a lie.

    What I was told to believe about expectations

    What I wasn’t told about encouragment

    What I was told to do was hold on to belief that divided

    What I was told to do to show loyalty to someone emotionally abusive

    What I was told to be

    That truth told was a deluded reality

    What I was encouraged to do about emotions

    That life was about walking on eggshells and fear.

     

    Dont listen to other people, they are the problem, no. the person who said this was.

    Their toxicity needs getting rid of. No, Yours does.

    They are the problem – no, your jealousy is

    Theres too many gossips in this town – no theres too many people who have been hurt by you that you are trying to discredit

    Stand up for yourself – but you’ll be in trouble if you dare stand up against me

    They pick on me – No, you can’t see why others see you as unwelcome, shocking and abusive.

    Soothe me and my emotional meltdowns – dont have your own feelings

    Im trying my best to be a good parent – goodness doesn’t come naturally to the entitled.

     

     

    It was all a lie. A lie cloaked in delusions and entitlement

    A lie – cloaked in the truth orientated ‘world’ of evangelicalism. God is on our side.  

    God the unseen presence, fear that terrified and controlled.

    When your whole life was a lie.

    A lie because the lies I had to believe were from the person who was meant to be the nurturer, protector, care giver.

    A lie because that was the default. Nothing good, generous, positive, just a dominating wounded ego, bordering psychopathy.

    A lie because emotionally immaturity, psychopathic externalising framed my entire upbringing.

    For 40 years, my life was a lie.

    How do I know?

    Because those who were lied to started to tell stories. Those who had been divided by hatred and suspicion realised that they had been treated the same.  Reconciliation occurred with truth telling. Truth required risk.

    But everything before it… was manipulative emotionally abusive lying.

    At least I now know.

    At least, im grateful… that truth sets people free. It really does.

    Im grateful that I can see

    That life begins in truth, at 42.

    With love, and a family I never had.

    Now I can see.

  • Understanding our emotionally immature upbringing and our internal selves (Part 2)

    Understanding our emotionally immature upbringing and our internal selves (Part 2)

    In my last piece I shared a little about how, based on Lindsay Gibsons book, ‘Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents’ , I coped with this by becoming an internaliser as opposed to reacting to it as an externaliser would.

    In this second part I though I would summarise some of the behaviours that are characteristic of emotionally immature parents, and people, and, dare I say it, organisations and churches too, who are full of emotionally immature externalisers. In my next part ill look at strategies that Gibson recommends to dealing with Emotionally immature parenting. But first, here’s a snapshot of some of the common actions and behaviours that befit emotional immature parenting, if these things are common, then I would recommend both of Lindsey Gibsons books on this, and also a conversation with a therapist.

    This is a tough read, and so I include a trigger warning.

    These are what it feels like to have an emotionally immature parent (or more than one) Ive expanded a few of these.

    1. You feel lonely around them
    2. Interactions feel one sided and frustrating
    3. You feel coerced and trapped
    4. They come first, and you are secondary (at best)
    5. They won’t be emotionally intimate or vulnerable with you (unless to get you on their side- the trick of the psychopath)
    6. They communicate through emotional contagionthis is where you are expected to guess their needs, and guess accurately otherwise its like to result in phrases like ‘if you loved me you’d know what I need; – they expect you to be constantly attuned to them
    7. They dont respect your boundaries or individuality
    8. You do the emotional work in the relationshipYou’re the one who has to reconnect and reconcile, they often make things worse by projecting blame, accusing others and disowning responsibility, they will more that likely be adamant that it was what you did or didn’t do that cause the problem; ‘if only you had known better and done what they asked’
    9. You lose your Emotional autonomy and mental freedom – because EI parents see you as an extension of themselves, they disregard your thoughts and feeling, instead they claim the sole right to judge . They respond with shock if your feelings dont match theirs (given that you are ‘just’ an extension of them) Your feelings are either good or bad.
    10. They can be killjoys and even sadistic – this to other people and their children, they barely take pleasure in other peoples happiness, often taking shine off their childrens pride (so I hid my accomplishments) They often famous for deflating their childrens dreams (if they express them). Sadism goes beyond this and is where they take pleasure in inflicting pain, humiliation and restraint on a living being, they can enjoy making their child feel desperate.Image may contain: text that says "Signs of fEmotionally Immature Parents your emotions You feel lonely with them Your relationship one-sided Your parents dismiss or They in superficial way They blame you issues they caused They have reactions They avoid vulnerability They demand compliance They respect boundaries They expect to how they feel They They trigger They hold accountable for their feelings They make their problems seem more significant than yours They unable to hold space problems Your parents guilt do what want your feelings or shame you into gettingyou to www.nedratawwab.com"

    As a reaction to the above, the child of an or more than one (I have 2) emotionally immature parents is affected in the following ways:

    You feel responsible for their feelings

    you feel exhausted and apprehensive

    You feel you can’t say no

    You feel defeated when you try and solve their problems

    You feel accused of letting them down

    You have overly intense emotional reactions to them – they transfer their feelings to you

    According to Gibson, Emotionally Immature Parents reveal themselves in the following ways, in how they approach life

    1. They are fundamentally fearful and insecure
      because they act like they were never truly loved, they are terrified of losing status or ceasing to matter
    2. They need to dominate and control – the dominant parent try to control others, the passive emotionally immature parent go along with whatever the dominant one desires. They dominate by taking over your emotions, treating you in ways which induce fear, shame, guilt and self doubt, and from this point you are the problem, not them. They feel better once you’re the bad one, but only temporarily because nothing makes them feel secure for long. 
    3. They define themselves and others by roles. Roles are central to an emotionally immature parents security and self identity. They certainly expect others to to stay in clear cut roles. They categorise people into dominant or submissive, equal relationships make them uneasy. They take liberties with boundaries so they keep you in a position they feel comfortable with. 
    4. They are ego-centric, not self reflective. They put their own needs and desires first and are entitled to what they want and rarely look at themselves objectively, they seldom question their own motives and reactions. They would rarely wonder if they were causing any of their own hardships. Personal growth is not a concept they relate to, and are usually derisive of it (‘I’m not the one that needs counselling’) growth is unpredictable because they often do not respond well with change as it gives insecurity. they can leave people stunned by their inappropriate comments, and if confronted they say ‘I was only saying what I thought’ as if speaking out loud were normal behaviour. 
    5. They blame others and excuse themselves
    6. They are impulsive and don’t tolerate stress and are usually impatient of others, being often very unable to soothe themselves, requiring others to do this for them, and want problems to go away as quickly as possible, their attempts to avoid stress, make things even more stressful. 
    7. They use coping mechanisms that resist reality – they distort, deny or dismiss facts they dont like  – whether its the virus, climate change or something relating to a challenge of their fixed reality system. At the lowest level a person may lose touch with reality and turn psychotic. 
    8. Reality is determined by emotions – ie by how it feels to them and they do this to the extreme. They way it feels is the way it is. Everything and everybody should be what she thought they should be.
    9. They deny and dismiss the reality of other peoples feelings
    10. Their intense feelings oversimplify reality –they have intense all or nothing emotions , oversimplifying people and situations into categories of all good or all bad, they hold back feeling complicated emotions, so there is little balancing or tempering them. Emotional maturity requires a balancing, tempering and the acceptance of a simultaneous mixture of emotions
    11. They disregard reality time sequence . Emotionally immature parents (and others) live in the immediate emotional moment and can be oblivious to the chain of causation over time. For instance they may be blisteringly oblivious to how their recent behaviour has made them unwelcome, they cant see why things shouldn’t go back to normal when they are ready to interact again. They are famous for saying ‘that was then, this is now’. The future isn’t a real consideration, so they feel free to burn bridges, deceive and lie. In fact lying is a reasonable solution, they often dont realise that their lies will catch up with them, and dont care that lies promote suspicion. Oh and because of this its maddening to get someone who is emotionally immature to take responsibility for their actions. because to them after the event is ‘over, and you need to move on…like I have’ 
    12. Their thoughts about life are simplistic , literal and rigid. they might sound like they are being catchy and decisive, but if you examine the words closely, they are often trite that isnt anything new, which is different from a mature wise person who leaves you pondering the thoughts for a long time. (Boris speeches won’t last long in the memory, neither will Trump) Emotionally immature people get more single minded the greater the stress. 
    13. They become obsessive. They only see the good guys and the bad guys, and dwell obsessively on someone who has wronged or betrayed them
    14. They use superficial logic to shut down feelings. Emotionally immature people demand that you soothe their emotional needs, but often trivialise yours often using trivial logic. Pin on Well Said

    And finally, I want to share some of the tactics that Emotionally immature people, and parents use in their coercion and takeover tactics. The trick is to see it and not be overtaken by it, though as children this is virtually impossible. The common tactics they use are:

    1. Self doubt undermines your authority and self worth – EI people withdraw emotional connection when you express thoughts or feelings they dont like. ‘the quiet treatment’  
    2. Fear makes you easier to control – Emotionally immature people are geniuses at instilling fear and making you feel unsafe. All the time. Once you feel afraid you are more likely to do what they say and put them first. 
    3. You inhibit yourself – not only their feelings but you start to be afraid of your own feelings
    4. You often feel guilty – Guilt should be a brief corrective signal, n to a chronic condition, not to hate yourself. Emotionally immature parents, people and religions exploit the coercive potential of guilt. EI parents make their children feel guilt over not sacrificing enough, or survivor guilt when whoever they have a happier life than their parents. 
    5. Feelings of shame make you easy to dominate. Thats why EI parents remember all your embaraasng negative stories. Shame comes about when EI parents/peopls use phrases like ‘are you crazy?’, how dare you, you shouldn’t feel that way – children conclude from these reactions that there is something wrong with them.
    6. Shame for having needs, this is annihilating and confusing. Often we can equate the emotionally devoid childhood we had as our own fault, rather than the fear of shame which controls us to not realise we were treated badly. Emotional parents and people have so much buried shame themselves they cant help their children understand it.

    Theres so much more in these chapters in her second book, which I highly recommend. As I read it it raises so many questions of not only my parents and my own parenting, but also how the same people act in their workplaces, communities and also the signs of all of this behaviour on the world stage, in politics, churches and organisations.

    In my part 3 ill be sharing more from Lindsays second book, on what is required to resist all the emotional take overs and tactics.

    As you get to the end of this piece, I want to tell you that if can see these things in your parents, then none of it has been your fault, and that your time to be you, free is about to happen. The road is so hard, but for you, it is worth it. Because you are valuable. Now is your time. It is most definitely mine.

    Instead of just linking to an authors books, here is an excerpt from Lindsays blog, and where you can purchase her books, do follow and benefit from her considerable expertise on this most challenging of subjects:

    With the recent publication of my latest book, Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, I have answered a question that has intrigued me for years: why do so many psychotherapy clients seem so much more together and self-aware than their family members? In other words, why are the least problematic people the ones seeking treatment? Realizing that many of my clients’ family members were highly emotionally immature, I set out to explore and explain their destructive interactions in a way that could free people to live their own best lives without being worn out by these draining personalities. By understanding our loved ones’ emotional immaturity, we can regain our trust in ourselves and get free from the destructive and confusing effects of early programming from childhood. 

    I have quoted extensively from Lindsay Graham, please do purchase her books, as I have done and reflect further on emotional immaturity and how it has affected your life.

    Lindsay has also appeared on a number of podcasts, and took part in this interview 

     

     

  • Gratitude as freedom

    https://youtu.be/GRtBxAqS340

    Following up from Jennis piece about thankfulness as resistance , Christelle and I watched the above talk by Anthony de Mello on Sunday evening. I picked it, with the subject of freedom, as this resonates so much with us all at the moment in the cycles of abuse and being free.

    What I didnt realise as I watched was Anthony was about to share how gratitude is a freeing process. For in the video he describes how we can be free, as we practice gratitude and thankfulness.

    Whether its bad previous experiences, good ones, possessions, fears and ambitions, his instruction is very similar.

    He says, when youre ready to, look at the thing, as if picking it out from the filing cabinet, look at it, talk to it, and say to it something like ; ‘__________, I learned ______ from that experience, thank you for teaching me, I do not need to keep being reminded of you’

    or for an item, what he describes, is very similar to what Maria Kondo was suggesting last year, describe it, and thank it for how it helped, how it did the thing it meant to do, and the memories, but now its time to be gifted to someone else.

    Through the process Anthony is suggesting that gratefulness is a process of freedom.

    Its not about holding those things, and living in the past, the fears, or nostalgia, neither is it aboiut collecting items or ambitions.

    Freedom is a process of gratitude.

    We can be free, from the horrors of the past, from the traumas, and be in safe places, with our minds still tormented. Freedom involves us being able to look at it, calmly, and somehow, acknowledge it, and speak to it, taking the power away from it, and to us.

    Gratitude as deep freedom.

  • Nurturing and loving my internalising self (Part 1)

    Of the 20 or so books I’ve read this year, the one that made the most impression on me from a healing and therapeutic perspective was ‘Adult children of Emotionally immature Parents’ by Lindsay Gibson (2015). (As an added note I’m slowly working my way through her follow up ‘Recovering from Emotionally Immature parents’ (2019))

    Her first book was the one in which I ticked, underlined, marked and wrote comments in nearly every page, for me its a good examination of Emotional immaturity, the types of emotionally immature parents and how children react and what children have to do to survive and do to respond to them. What I found most interesting is that children respond, broadly, to emotionally immature parents (there are 4 types she describes) in one of two ways, being an internaliser, and an externaliser. These both existing along a spectrum and changes occurring during stress, after therapy and self realisations.

    I realised, quite obviously that I am an internaliser. So, I would like to share with you some of the aspects of the internaliser, because in a way, if you’re an externaliser, you’re probably not going to be interested in reading this blog anyway. Self help, learning and reflection aren’t your bag, most of the time.

    If you are an internaliser like me, then you are like to :

    Worry, think that solutions start on the inside, be thoughtful and empathetic, think about what could happen, overestimate difficulties, try and figure out what’s going on (I was very perceptive as a child, some might call that over vigilance) , looking for their role in cause of a problem (‘what did I do?’), engage in self reflection and taking responsibility, figure out problems independently and deal with reality as it is and be willing to change. 

    I think before I act, as an internaliser, and also believe emotions can be managed, I feel guilty easily and I find the inner psychological world fascinating. (I nearly did a psychology degree aged 18, and recently completed a psychology module for my MA), and in relationships im likely to put other peoples needs first, consider changing myself to improve the situation, request dialogue to sort something out (ah ha.- thats why I like ‘conversation’ as a youth worker..) and want to help others understand why theres a problem. 

    If you want to know what an externaliser is like, then think about some of the opposites to the above. If you have any experience with someone who acts like an child but in adult form, then that is an externaliser. They deny reality and expect everyone else to sooth them, as they lash out, externalising emotions with little control or sense of consequences. Lindsey’s comment on these is that balance is a key, an extreme internaliser or externaliser is a dangerous thing, only that an extreme externaliser is also a danger to other people, all of the time.

    I would say that I was on the middle to extreme internaliser space on the scale. Taking on and feeling guilt, for everything (‘Sorry seems to be the easiest word’), and revolving my sense of self around other people. Realising my co-dependancy tendencies last year was part of this.  As Lindsay describes, children adopt one of two principle strategies for coping within such an emotionally immature situation, albeit, everyone in some way is along the spectrum as we can all be described as a mixture of internalisers and internalisers.

    But I now know and understand my internalised self. And that is a good thing. I also have a better understanding of its strengths and weaknesses and ill share some of these below. And, I can accept that this is the way I chose to survive, cope and respond in such an emotionally toxic family upbringing.

    Being an internaliser means that you are likely to, and I identify many of these:

    Being highly sensitive and perceptive; they notice everything

    They have strong emotions; they can be seen as ‘too emotional’ , ‘too sensitive’ – that’s because they hold all those emotions and they intensify as they do so

    Internalisers have a deep need for connection – they are extremely sensitive to the quality of emotional intimacy in relationships – they want to go deep… 

    Internalisers have strong instincts for Genuine engagement – ‘it is crucial that internalisers see their instinctive desire for emotional engagement as a positive thing’ (rather than interpret it as needy or desperate)

    Forging Emotional connections outside of the family – children who are internalisers  are usually adept at finding potential sources of emotional connection outside of the family. They notice when other people provide warmth, seek out relationships with safe people outside the family to gain an increased sense of security.  (I know where I felt ‘home’ as a child/teenager)  This can also include pets, friends and spirituality. (NB crossover piece on youth work relationships with children of emotionally immature parents..) 

    Internalisers are often apologetic about needing help  they often feel embarrassed or undeserving, and they are often surprised to have their feelings taken seriously. They often downplay their suffering, even wondering if ‘other people’ are more in need of therapy time than they are. 

    Internalisers become invisible and easy to neglect. Whereas explosive externalisers are easy to spot. Internalisers rely on inner resources and try and solve problems on their own. 

    Internalisers are overly independent

    Internalisers don’t see abuse for what it is – often minimising it as ‘no big deal’ 

    Internalisers do most of the work in relationships – sometimes doing the emotional work for parents, as emotionally immature parents avoid doing responsible emotional work themselves. 

    However.. they also… Overwork in the adult relationship, often playing both parts of the emotional work in a relationship, they attract needy people (everyone trusts them, being the ‘go-to’ person.) , they can believe that self-neglect can bring love (‘self sacrifice is the greatest ideal’ say parents to internalising children, and associate these with religion…in this way, writes Graham, ‘religious ideas that should be spiritually nourishing are instead used to keep idealistic children focussing on the care of others’

    As I read the section on ‘what its like being an internalising adult’ I realised so much about me, about how I reacted in my childhood, my behaviour and what I did to cope, find emotional depth, nurturing and support outside the family home, I see it now, and once I saw it it was freeing to realise. It was also freeing to see how I made decisions based on my past that were almost inevitable without the kind of deep emotional work that I could have undertaken. But as an internaliser I orientated around inner strengths and survival, not seeing abuse for what it so clearly was.

    I love my internal sense of self. I know its a good thing, and knowing about it means that I can fine tune it, and see it for its strengths and weaknesses. I know better how to love my internalising self, I think.

    In Part 2, ill share more about the strategies for keeping an internalising self healthy…and that is here

    References

    Graham, Lindsay, 2015, Adult Children on Emotionally Immature Parents

    Graham, Lindsay, 2019, Recovering from Emotionally Immature Parents

     

     

     

     

  • Brave

    ‘Grow a backbone will you Bromley, and stop running away’

    These were the words that spoke to me, this time when I watched the quite astounding film PRIDE for the umpteenth time a few weeks ago.

    Brave.

    ‘You are being brave’.

    Never do this words mean so much more when you are growing the proverbial back bone.

    Standing up, not running away.

    ‘You have been so brave’

    Are exactly the words that are needed when the quiet ones tell their stories

    Seek justice not for others. But for them selves.

    Brave

    isnt running away.

    Survival is running away, and theres nothing wrong with that. How else do you cope as a child.

    ‘You have been so brave’

    Brave

    Courageous

    Not giving in to the fear

    Not allowing the fear, that the oppressor use to control you

    Brave is saying:  No, that is enough.

    Brave is having a voice

    Brave is giving others a voice

    Brave is not losing control when others are losing theirs.

    My 40 years of running. Running scared. Afraid.

    What might ‘she’ do?

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    Brave is telling the truth

    Brave

    Brave is dealing with it

    Brave is saying I need help

    Brave is saying it cant go on like this

    Brave is challenging

    Brave is protecting others

    Brave is taking responsibility

    Brave changes the pattern

    Brave is ok

    Start being brave.

    Make that step, turn around , and walk.

    You are stronger than you realise, you’ve hid and survived so long.

    You can do this.

    ‘You have been so brave’

    To say no.

    To say yes…to yourself

    To listen to your own heart

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